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Practice Strategies

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:34 pm
by tbdana
What are your practice routines for maximizing your ability and endurance?

A friend asked me about my routine, and this is what I told him. Your mileage may vary:

I model my practicing after the regimen I followed when I was training to run marathons. My training for marathons went like this:

3 days a week, solid runs of 8-12 miles.
2 days a week speed workouts.
1 day a week do an LSD (long, slow distance) run of 15-22 miles.
1 day rest.

On trombone I do this:

3 days a week I do a 2-hour practice session, doing my daily routine and working on exercises and pieces I want to play. I do this workout whenever I have a gig later that same day. This is my bread and butter practice session. It's productive but doesn't leave me overly tired.

2 days a week I spend 1-1.5 hours on very difficult stuff, like building range or speed or flexibility. I generally practice to muscle failure on these days, so even though these are the shortest practice sessions, they are also the hardest and I'm very tired after these sessions. This is practicing at the very edge of my skill set. If there's a risk of practicing "too hard" it's on one of these days, so be smart about it.

1 day a week is an endurance session, where I play 4-5 hours straight, focusing on long tones, arpeggios, lip slurs and etudes/excerpts/jazz pieces. Nothing too heavy, just lots of time with horn-on-face, building endurance.

1 day a week rest. On these days I try not to play at all. But if I have a gig that day, I'll do the gig, but will show up to it cold and do a very light warmup, with no other playing that day.

I try to time it so that on days I have gigs, I will only do a two-hour practice session. That's because those are actually my lightest sessions. I won't do the shorter but very intense sessions, and I won't do an endurance session. And anytime I have a gig that day I will stop before I get too tired, so I have chops left for the gig.

Also, I stagger the different kinds of sessions as much as possible. I don't want to be doing the same kind of practice session two days in a row if I can help it. An ideal week might be:

Day 1: 2 hr bread and butter session
Day 2: 1 hr killer session
Day 3: 2 hr bread and butter session
Day 4: 1 hr killer session
Day 5: 2 hr bread and butter session
Day 6: 4-5 hr endurance session
Day 7: Rest

Doing that kind of regimen maximizes my ability and eventually makes me feel like I can play forever without tiring, which is where I was at before smashing my chops up a couple weeks ago.

Important: Rest and recovery are as important as playing. That's why I always try to rest as much as I play while practicing, and always take one day off completely if I can.

That's my experience, and it seems to work pretty well for me. 🙂

What's your plan for getting as good as you possibly can?

Re: Practice Strategies

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:06 pm
by chouston3
I have a 3 part practice day that has been working for the past several months for me.

Session 1: Maintenance routine. This could be any number of the published daily routines(Remington, Brad Edwards, Bob McChesney, David Vining, etc) I try to stick with one for a solid month but I can change it up if I get bored. I also play one based upon how my chops feels. If my chops feel bad, I will do a shorter routine. But I always try to do one. This session more than any of the others seems to move me forward with my playing.

Session 2: Etudes. I do pattern work, a legato etude, and an articulation etude.

Session 3: Fun. I play a tune that I like in a few different keys. I play by ear or I might grab a hymnbook and sight read the different parts so I can keep up my treble clef skills.

I end up playing between 1.5 and 2 hours per day. I have seen a steady increase in my endurance and my general sound. I am an intermediate player, as I become more advanced, I will probably need to restructure my practice sessions. I would love to follow Dana's practice week but I am not there yet.


I want to know more about rest as much as you play.

Do you set up a stop watch and after you finish a 3 minute etude, you sit there and wait for 3 minutes?

Re: Practice Strategies

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:20 pm
by tbdana
chouston3 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:06 pm I want to know more about rest as much as you play.

Do you set up a stop watch and after you finish a 3 minute etude, you sit there and wait for 3 minutes?
No, it's not that structured. I'll just play for a few minutes, and then do a solitaire game (usually takes me 5 minutes or so) or surf the web for a couple minutes, then play the next thing. I'm not militant about it. I go by feel and estimate the time.

Re: Practice Strategies

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:19 pm
by baBposaune
So, Dana, what you are saying is that on the 4-5 hour endurance session day it's actually 2-2.5 hours of time the horn is on your face with rest periods factored in.

Matt

Re: Practice Strategies

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:27 pm
by tbdana
baBposaune wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:19 pm So, Dana, what you are saying is that on the 4-5 hour endurance session day it's actually 2-2.5 hours of time the horn is on your face with rest periods factored in.

Matt
Yeah, I suppose. I try to rest as much as I play, but I don't time it out. I probably actually play more than I rest, but I try to make it as close as possible. I'll finish an exercise or an etude or something, and I'll rest for about as long as I think it took me to play it. It's not a hard and fast rule. And on the shorter sessions I'm more likely to be playing a lot more than resting, but on the long sessions I try to keep to it as much as practical.

I've never had a gig where I had to play constantly for more than two hours. Well, okay, I take that back. Barnum & Bailey's Circus was like that. Anyone who has done that gig know it's brutal. But in real life on a 2-hour gig you probably actually are playing less than an hour, with rests and time between pieces/tunes/charts. So it's kind of a "feel" thing. The goal is to rest enough that you're giving your chops time to recover between exercises, especially on the long days.

Re: Practice Strategies

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:46 pm
by AndrewMeronek
Rich Willey compiled a great practice sequence in this:

https://boptism.com/boptism-music-store ... hardt-pdf/

It's not a weekly schedule (it's longer) and is not intended to define your entire practice session. But it's great stuff.

Re: Practice Strategies

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:49 pm
by AndrewMeronek
tbdana wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:34 pm What are your practice routines for maximizing your ability and endurance?
Focusing on endurance - I haven't really figured out for myself a perfect practice sequence. I can say that tougher sessions of playing extremes in a way that burns me out quicker (like, I'm exhausted after 15 minutes) does pay better dividends for this specific focus than trying to grunt the same endurance concepts through hours of practice.

Re: Practice Strategies

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:27 pm
by muschem
Interesting topic, and definitely something I've wrestled with in trying to rebuild. My mental model for trombone playing suggests that technique/form is at least as important as facial muscle strength. That said, I've seen a fair bit of discussion around the different benefits and drawbacks of HIIT (high-intensity interval training) vs. LISS (low-intensity stead state) workouts in other contexts, and a lot of it seems to align well with my observations of my own playing and growth on trombone. One recent article, which hit my feed: https://archive.ph/V0k0M. I haven't been nearly so thoughtful and structured about this in my practice sessions as Dana, but coming across this thread, I think it may be time I change that.

Re: Practice Strategies

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:43 pm
by baBposaune
What I was taught by Jeff Reynolds was to practice in short, focused sessions, about 20 minutes at a time with breaks in between. When I was studying with him the goal was 6x a day which adds up to two hours cumulative face time. There has never been a time in my life when I have actually done that, but if I had a pressure gig like playing in the LA Phil or something like that, you bet I would have!

Right now my realistic goals are to extend my 15-20 practice "chunks" by another 5 minutes gradually until I'm at 30 minutes and play 3 or 4 sessions, working on different things each time. Not there yet, but hey, I get closer each day.

I'm not a clock watcher either. Rest breaks are more about how my chops feel. That's usually a good indicator of when to start again or if I should rest a bit longer. Also depends on WHAT I am practicing and HOW.

One more thing. I'd rather practice for a half hour with proper air, embouchure, tone, in tune, good articulation (correct form as Phil Teele would say) than practice an hour and half playing "half-assed."

Matt Varho