Convertible Horn Advantage
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Convertible Horn Advantage
Never considered a convertible horn as a maintenance plus but took the valve out of my Shires Q to make it more convenient to clean some gunk that was starting to live in my F attachment. Made it much easier to clean the F attachment tubing without any chance of damaging the bell. I was somewhat surprised how easy it came apart and went back together too.
Just a thot....
Just a thot....
Dave
2020ish? Shires Q30GR with 2CL
1982 King 607F with 13CL
Yamaha 421G Bass with Christian Lindberg 2CL / Bach 1 1/2G
Bach Soloist with 13CL
1967 Olds Ambassador with 10CL
1957 Besson 10-10
Jean Baptiste EUPCOMS with Stork 4
2020ish? Shires Q30GR with 2CL
1982 King 607F with 13CL
Yamaha 421G Bass with Christian Lindberg 2CL / Bach 1 1/2G
Bach Soloist with 13CL
1967 Olds Ambassador with 10CL
1957 Besson 10-10
Jean Baptiste EUPCOMS with Stork 4
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Re: Convertible Horn Advantage
Modularity was initially added due to the way that Thayer valves are shaped. To do regular maintenance on them, you have to disattach it from the bell!
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Re: Convertible Horn Advantage
Definitely less of a hassle to clean/service valves on a valve section only.
Aidan Ritchie, LA area player and teacher
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Re: Convertible Horn Advantage
Interestingly, Thayers were not modular originally. It was necessary for the top to be removable, but the bottom was permanently attached to the bell brace.
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Re: Convertible Horn Advantage
I wonder if anyone ships (or baggage checks) bell sections disassembled. Seems to me it would lessen any impact damage on the bell flare because the valve weight is detached.
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Re: Convertible Horn Advantage
The way the bell is packed makes much more of a difference than if the valve section is attached or not.
Matthew Walker
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Former Bass Trombonist, Opera Australia, 1991-2006
Owner/Craftsman, M&W Custom Trombones, LLC, Jackson, Wisconsin.
Former Bass Trombonist, Opera Australia, 1991-2006
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Re: Convertible Horn Advantage
We did not ship this way when I was working at Shires, but for personal travel it is something Steve Shires has recommended. If you're flying in such a way that you must check a suitcase and a trombone case, you can reduce the risk by packing the valve section (and maybe the main tuning slide) in the middle of the suitcase and immobilizing the bell in the trombone case by packing clothes around it.AtomicClock wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:42 am I wonder if anyone ships (or baggage checks) bell sections disassembled. Seems to me it would lessen any impact damage on the bell flare because the valve weight is detached.
Also, Matthew is right.
Gabe Rice
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Vermont Symphony Orchestra
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Re: Convertible Horn Advantage
From a construction/assembly and buffing perspective, open wrap modular bells are much easier to prepare. When the bell is removed, it is much more convenient to buff almost every spot of the F-attachment with a buffing wheel…… same for the bell when it is not attached to the valve section. Other wrap designs and non-modular bell sections require hand wicking because the design creates more nooks and crannies.
Brian D. Hinkley - Player, Teacher, Technician and Trombone Enthusiast
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Re: Convertible Horn Advantage
Modular instruments are great for the maker's bank accounts as the design entices everyone to try virtually everything they make so see if it makes a difference in our playing. Most of us will admit that it really makes relatively little difference compared to what we spend.