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Vincent Bach American Style Baritone?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:49 pm
by YunoWho
Hi there,

So I'm not sure if it's been talked about already but I have this baritone I'm handing off to a friend and was looking around for info about it. I've searched long and hard and can't find hardly anything about it. I'll try and put up some photos to go with this, but for a brief run down, it's a American style baritone with a forward angled bell, only marked with Vincent Bach, serial 06432 and a conical horn. I'm fairly new at this kind of stuff so I apologize in advance 😅
Thank you,

Re: Vincent Bach American Style Baritone?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:45 pm
by brassmedic
I would guess it was made by Olds. Looks the same as an Olds Ambassador, except with a fixed bell.
Olds Ambassador Baritone w_Removable Bell Reverb.png

Re: Vincent Bach American Style Baritone?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:49 pm
by YunoWho
Oh cool, I'll check it out! Thank you

Re: Vincent Bach American Style Baritone?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:57 pm
by YunoWho
Did Bach and Olds have any history? Cause this horn is identical to the Olds horn but it's labeled as Bach.

Re: Vincent Bach American Style Baritone?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:07 pm
by JohntheTheologian
Bach did market stencil versions of Yamaha YEP321 euphoniums at one point.

Bach's marching horns seemed to be Old clones as well. Blessing seemed to have the same designs. I remember reading once something about Olds selling the tooling for their marching horns to Blessing. Perhaps Blessing made them for Bach.

Re: Vincent Bach American Style Baritone?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:14 pm
by YunoWho
Ah that would make a lot of sense. Thank you so much for the help from you all!

Re: Vincent Bach American Style Baritone?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:24 pm
by JohnL
YunoWho wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:57 pm Did Bach and Olds have any history? Cause this horn is identical to the Olds horn but it's labeled as Bach.
I've heard that Selmer purchased some of the Olds tooling when Olds closed down in 1979; Certain Bach mellos, marching trombones, tubas, sousaphones, marching baritones, and "American" baritones closely resemble Olds instruments.