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Conn constellation

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Conn constellation is too bright, is there anything we can do to darken the tone?
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Don't blow so hard ;)
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tim wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 5:48 pm Conn constellation is too bright, is there anything we can do to darken the tone?
48h, right? I've found that the sound is actually pretty dark, I think the articulations may be giving it that sound that you're thinking about. Approach it like a classical horn, maybe even put a bigger mouthpiece on it. But try to lighten the articulations for sure. And, yeah, backing off on the air will help you back off the articulations too. If you find you're exhaling at the ends of phrases, you're definitely giving it too much air.
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Conn 3 piece and easy on the air. It's a rich buttery tone. You can still light it up if you want.
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It's a student playing it. I've told him he's over blowing, we'll try a conn 3 I have tomorrow
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I've played it and it comes across pretty bright, I'm using a bach 3 in it. My usual horn is elkie 62h, I'm pretty used to dark.
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Re: Conn constellation

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I have a Connstellation 5C-N small-shank mouthpiece that works very well with a Conn 48H Connstellation (0.500" bore). It's bigger than a Conn 3 - Cup I.D. 25.55mm / 1.006"; Throat 6.15mm / 0.242". Nearly identical to the Connstellation "Remington" (small-shank version of the classic 88H "Remington"). Slightly shallower cup; narrower rim. Produced ~1962-1972. Probably a bit large for a 48H, but definitely will "darken" the sound.
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That's why the horn is made for. Why try to darken it ? If you need a fork, don't choose the knife and try to pick noodles with it !
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tim wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 8:26 pm I've played it and it comes across pretty bright, I'm using a bach 3 in it. My usual horn is elkie 62h, I'm pretty used to dark.
When I'm switching between bass and 500 bore, it always takes an adjustment to hold back on the air. Especially with the 48h.
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