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Name this Trombone

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 1:53 pm
by JustPlainDan
Hey there, fellow instrumentalists. Recently I inherited a beautiful Besson trombone that I can’t for the life of me identify. It looks like a student model, but the serial suggests it's from the very late 60s. It's using a 12C mouthpiece so I suspect it's a small bore Trombone. However, unlike every other brass instrument I’ve owned, there's no model or manufacture information on the bell. Just the Besson name and small logo.

Any help in identifying this little guy is appreciated!

Photos: https://1drv.ms/f/s!AryvdMHzGLZRp7VFMhA4PWVZ7_dosQ

Re: Name this Trombone

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:39 pm
by TromboneTiger
the only thing i could find was a prodige 130, but i don't know at all if that's what it is.

Re: Name this Trombone

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 10:58 pm
by claf
The slide looks the same as my Blessing's however the serial number is only on the outer slide brace on yours and on both slides braces on mine. Also the slide lock looks the same.

Re: Name this Trombone

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:20 am
by Doug Elliott
Kanstul was the manufacturer of some Bessons but I don't know how to know where it was made or anything about model names.

Re: Name this Trombone

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:24 am
by stewbones43
Most Besson trombones from the last 60 years have their serial number on the underside of the bell, just in front of the main bell brace. Since the 70s or 80s, the serial number has been preceded by a 3 digit model number; 4** for imported student models (could be Amati, Jupiter or Blessing, in rising order of preference), 6** for British made student models, 7** for intermediate models and 9** for professional instruments. They may not have a model name but may just be Besson 600, 700 or 900.
I know that Kanstul made some professional trumpets but I don't have any information about trombones made by them.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Stewbones 43

Re: Name this Trombone

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:39 pm
by Mamaposaune
Is the bell section unusually long? I bought a Besson 639 USA bell section years ago, I had a student (Conn?) slide that I was hoping it might fit. Aside from the problem that the tenon was a bit loose and the threads didn't match up, I noticed that it played very flat, +/- a half-step. When I compared it to other bell sections it was noticeably longer, and it did not fit in the student case that I had.
It's still sitting loose in my trombone room, I just checked and the serial # (4**) is on the slide receiver.
Based on what Stewbones wrote, I suspect it was made by Blessing.