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Is this a Bach Soloist?

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:59 pm
by KongaKenny
Hi everyone. I'm a percussionist looking to expand my musical skillet and trombone is what I am taking up.
I also play piano.

I'm in need of an instrument, but don't want to buy one online.

I live in Southwest Minnesota halfway between Minneapolis, Minnesota and Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
It's literally a 4 hour round trip to get anywhere that sells band instruments.

On FB Marketplace, a guy about 45 minutes away has a Bach Soloist (he says) and the slide is silky smooth according to him. He rated the horn in very good to excellent condition. It does not have an F attachment.

My question, after researching that particular model , is did any of them come with the slides nickel (or chrome) plated? I looked on Reverb and eBay and couldn't find any that looked like this one.

Thanks šŸ˜€
Kenny
I can't figure out how to post a photo yet.

Re: Is this a Bach Soloist?

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 4:05 pm
by Matt K
You need three approved posts to put photos on. Here. But you can post to a file sharing site like Dropbox or Google Drive and link.

Bach soloists did have chrome plated slides. They were rebadged Benge 165Fs if Iā€™m remembering right

Re: Is this a Bach Soloist?

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:32 pm
by KongaKenny
Thank you Matt K. I'm going to go take a look at it this weekend. If the slide is silky smooth as he says, I'll probably get it.
The couple photos show the crook is in remarkable condition. I really don't care a ton about a few little dents, dings and scratches.
You've helped put my mind at ease.
šŸ˜Š Kenny

Re: Is this a Bach Soloist?

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:06 pm
by Cmillar
A Bach Soloist is a great playing horn! I used to have a student who played one ten years or so ago. Man, I was jealous of that horn. I could play better on it than the Bach 16 I had at the time!

If it's in nice shape, get it!

Re: Is this a Bach Soloist?

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:35 pm
by KongaKenny
Good to know Cmillar. I'll hopefully be able to post a pic by this weekend if I do buy it.
I dig the two-tone look of the chrome slide, and bell braces against the brass bell and tuning slide.
Appreciate the input,
Kenny

Re: Is this a Bach Soloist?

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:44 pm
by Posaunus
"Bach Soloist" seems to be a catch-all name attached to a few (at least two) different "intermediate" (Ā±) trombones produced by the Conn-Selmer folks. One "Soloist" is apparently similar (successor?) to the under-rated (better than intermediate) Benge 165F. But not this one. As KongaKenny wrote, this is a straight trombone (no F-attachment). Probably the same as (or similar to) the one Walldaja described in a different thread: 0.500" bore, outer rose brass slide with nickel crook, chrome-plated inners. Virtually identical to Conn 23H.

Some of these instruments were quite well-made, and played well. If KongaKenny is lucky, he's got one of those.

Re: Is this a Bach Soloist?

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:56 am
by walldaja
KongaKenny,

Does it look like this? This is the Soloist that is also sold as a Conn 23H.

Re: Is this a Bach Soloist?

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:06 pm
by KongaKenny
Thanks for uploading some pictures Dave.
The Soloist looks a lot like the photos you furnished.
The bell section is identical. The slide is also the same, but reversed. On the trombone I am inquiring about, the mouthpiece receiver and slide crook are brass, and the slides themselves are chrome (or nickel).
Otherwise yes, it appears to be the same model.
Do you enjoy the tone and playability of your instrument?
Cheers,
Kenny

Re: Is this a Bach Soloist?

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:52 pm
by walldaja
Kenny,

I really enjoy this horn. Actually have two of them and have played duets with my granddaughter with them. I was surprised by its tone and playability. My go to straight horn.