TromboneChat

Hi all,

I bought an old trombone with the name HORTON engraved on the bell about 15 years ago. I've searched for info, over the years, and never found anything. Does anyone know anything about HORTON bones?

Thanks,
henrylr

There were Chinese instruments labeled Selman and Horton, probably intended to fool the uninitiated. I suspect the US Patent and Trademark office filed a complaint because I haven't seen these in a while. The instruments were no great shakes either.

I'm inclined to agree with you that it is Chinese made. It has no other marking, like country of manufacture. I have a collection of various instruments and they all are stamped or engraved with the country of manufacture.

I'm inclined to agree with you that it is Chinese made. It has no other marking, like country of manufacture. I have a collection of various instruments and they all are stamped or engraved with the country of manufacture.

Did it hear a who?

brassmedic wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 2:16 am Did it hear a who?

Who did it hear?

I wonder if there are knock-offs engraved BAGH, CQNN and OLBS.

A real-life engraving error, not a phony: my alma mater many years ago had two Miraphone oval German-style baritones. They were engraved MIRAFONE (as the then American distributor spelled it), except that one was engraved MIRAEONE. Interestingly, that one played worse than the other one.

Ted

I remember a "Back" trombone. They even copied the engraving style for the Selman, Horton, and Back trombones. A trick the Chinese used with a lot of other sham goods (not just trombones).

BGuttman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 4:54 pm I remember a "Back" trombone. They even copied the engraving style for the Selman, Horton, and Back trombones. A trick the Chinese used with a lot of other sham goods (not just trombones).

Such chicanery is not exclusive to any culture or region - though the intellectual property climate in the PRC does tend to offer fertile conditions for it.

Bruce, you might get a kick out of reading up on the history of Spanish patent law. It wasn't that long ago (1986?) that you couldn't enforce a patent in Spain unless you were actually manufacturing a product in Spain that involved the use of that patent.