Holton Bells

Druidman · Post by **Druidman** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:07 pm

Hey all!

I believe there's been a topic about this, but I haven't found it, but does anybody know the general construction of Holton bells? I believe they're usually two-piece with a soldered rim, but I'm second-guessing myself.

Thanks!

hornbuilder · Post by **hornbuilder** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:47 pm

Yes, you're correct.

Tbarh · Post by **Tbarh** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 1:03 am

hornbuilder wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:47 pm Yes, you're correct.

Matthew,Do You know if they have a hand hammered /seamed flare like the old Conns?

Trond

ithinknot · Post by **ithinknot** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:07 am

I have three and they're all unsoldered

e.g. viewtopic.php?p=177463#p177463

elmsandr · Post by **elmsandr** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:58 am

Tbarh wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 1:03 am
hornbuilder wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:47 pm Yes, you're correct.
Matthew,Do You know if they have a hand hammered /seamed flare like the old Conns?

Trond

Are there any professional flares that aren’t at least in some way “hand hammered”? They aren’t made by robots and they are eventually spun and more ‘burnished’, but they all get hand hammered at some point, so I think that term is a little useless.

As for the seamed flare, mine isn’t, but it is a very late build one from when they consolidated production with UMI.

Cheers,
Andy

hornbuilder · Post by **hornbuilder** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:34 am

I'm not aware of any seamed flare Holtons, but my sample size is pretty small.

pjanda1 · Post by **pjanda1** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:28 pm

My 1980ish 156 screw bell is definitely not a seamed flare. Pretty sure it is unsoldered.

Paul

Kevbach33 · Post by **Kevbach33** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:12 pm

My sample size is 2:

My own 168 does not have a seamed flare, and the seams are otherwise very difficult to see. It has a soldered bell bead.

I cannot recall the TR181 bass trombone bell construction...

Tbarh · Post by **Tbarh** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 6:18 am

elmsandr wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:58 am
Tbarh wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 1:03 am
Matthew,Do You know if they have a hand hammered /seamed flare like the old Conns?

Trond
Are there any professional flares that aren’t at least in some way “hand hammered”? They aren’t made by robots and they are eventually spun and more ‘burnished’, but they all get hand hammered at some point, so I think that term is a little useless.

As for the seamed flare, mine isn’t, but it is a very late build one from when they consolidated production with UMI.

Cheers,
Andy

If it is a two piece bell the stem are almost always hand hammered ..The flare however almost never…

modelerdc · Post by **modelerdc** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:25 pm

I've had several Tr180, Tr181, 185, and 183, and all have been two piece bells with unsoldered rims.

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