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Valve Trombone Options Today
Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 9:55 pm
by derekcgullett
Hey everyone! I’m trying to compile a list of all of the options we have in valve trombones nowadays. Considering going down the rabbit hole and getting one at some point (not too soon, though).
I’ll start with what I know off the top of my head:
- King 2166/3B
- Yamaha YSL-354V
- Conn 6H/5G
- Getzen 998
I know I’m missing some pretty obvious ones probably, so feel free to add other options and your thoughts!
Also, is there such a thing as a large-bore valve trombone (that isn’t a cimbasso)? Never heard of one and there very well might not be much use for one, but it’s cool to think about.
Re: Valve Trombone Options Today
Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 10:31 pm
by brassmedic
The Conn 90G was large bore, but for valve trombones being manufactured currently, I don't know.
Re: Valve Trombone Options Today
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 12:46 am
by greenbean
—Bach 16V
There is also a Jupiter.
And most of the European makers offer them, often in a larger bore. Cerveny, Lidl, Miraphone, …
Re: Valve Trombone Options Today
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 1:30 am
by harrisonreed
The Holton Superbone
https://www.virtuosityboston.com/holton ... mbone.html
Still can be had...
The Wessex Superbone also exists, which is medium dual bore:
https://www.wessex-tubas.com/products/s ... bone-pb930
The schagerl version also is out there but it's many times the price of these two.
Re: Valve Trombone Options Today
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 1:43 am
by ithinknot
Jinbao and the many names by which she is known
Lots of rotaries from European makers, but assuming you're talking piston then Kühnl & Hoyer and Amati
King 2B and 3B valve sections are the same .481, only the tenon changes
Re: Valve Trombone Options Today
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 8:42 am
by greenbean
Side note: I have one of a handful of piston valve trombones that Miraphone made in the 1970s. Nice playing horn!
Re: Valve Trombone Options Today
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 9:03 am
by hyperbolica
Olds made a valve bone. And I'm sure Weril (Brazil) made one. Valve bones are big in south America. Plus, you can get larger valve trombones from Germany. They often have 4 rotary valves. Wessex makes them in Bb and C.
Plus the flugabone type things are called compact marching valve trombones, and I'd include the trombonium and variants in that group.
Re: Valve Trombone Options Today
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 9:09 am
by JohnL
derekcgullett wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:55 pmAlso, is there such a thing as a large-bore valve trombone (that isn’t a cimbasso)? Never heard of one and there very well might not be much use for one, but it’s cool to think about.
AFAIK, the only large (i.e., .547" or greater) bore valve trombone that was ever a catalog item is the DEG "Jazzbone".
https://reverb.com/item/6220148-vintage ... -80s-brass
They're quite rare and, to be honest, don't have a very good reputation.
Re: Valve Trombone Options Today
Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 10:38 am
by Finetales
I didn't know the Jazzbone had a .547" bore. Makes me wonder if the Dynasty II trombonium bugles were also .547".
Re: Valve Trombone Options Today
Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 3:15 pm
by JohnL
Finetales wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 10:38 am
I didn't know the Jazzbone had a .547" bore. Makes me wonder if the Dynasty II trombonium bugles were also .547".
I said .547"
or greater; the Jazzbone is, AFAIK, .562".
Re: Valve Trombone Options Today
Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 4:12 pm
by Burgerbob
Really? It doesn't look that large.
Re: Valve Trombone Options Today
Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 12:18 am
by NBischoff