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Home brew cut bell bass trombone case (revisited)

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:25 am
by heldenbone
Started with a Pelican Vault V700 rifle box and some choice material from Walmart. The result is a flight-worthy case for my bass trombone. Not shown are the wheels added to make transport easier ($12 from Amazon). Total cost of the project is about $200.

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 3:22 pm
by elmsandr
Beautiful!

I’m still looking for one just a little shorter, I want a 36” overall on the exterior, but I may be out of luck there.

Love the interior,
Andy

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 3:46 pm
by Neo Bri
This is amazing! Love it. I'd love to do this too. You didn't cut the bell yourself, did you?

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:30 pm
by harrisonreed
That is really cool but I would want to squeeze it into a smaller case. Like, that type of case but viola sized.

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:35 pm
by Burgerbob
harrisonreed wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:30 pm That is really cool but I would want to squeeze it into a smaller case. Like, that type of case but viola sized.
Yeah, it looks pretty big to me.

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:14 pm
by heldenbone
This is amazing! Love it. I'd love to do this too. You didn't cut the bell yourself, did you?
Oh no. Gary Dafler did that for me. Size was secondary to airline imperviousness. It's still smaller than a guitar case, and thinner, so it should still frequently qualify as carry on, but stand up to checking if required.

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:47 pm
by JohnL
Burgerbob wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:35 pmYeah, it looks pretty big to me.
Aidan, have you seen the case John Sandhagen made for his bass trombone? Pretty darned small.

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:48 pm
by Burgerbob
JohnL wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:47 pm
Burgerbob wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:35 pmYeah, it looks pretty big to me.
Aidan, have you seen the case John Sandhagen made for his bass trombone? Pretty darned small.
Yes it is!

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:14 am
by CharlieB
Nice work. Beautiful.
An excellent compromise of protection, size, durability and cost.
:good: :good:

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 2:21 pm
by Druidman
Burgerbob wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:48 pm
JohnL wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:47 pm

Aidan, have you seen the case John Sandhagen made for his bass trombone? Pretty darned small.
Yes it is!
Are there pictures of this anywhere?

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:24 pm
by Burgerbob
Druidman wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 2:21 pm
Burgerbob wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:48 pm

Yes it is!
Are there pictures of this anywhere?
Not sure. I might be able to take one next week.

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:44 am
by BigBadandBass
I want a bonna case with that interior

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:20 pm
by heldenbone
elmsandr wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 3:22 pm I’m still looking for one just a little shorter, I want a 36” overall on the exterior, but I may be out of luck there.
Thanks for the kind words. The closest to a 36-inch flight case suitable for repurposing that I found was a 37-note keyboard case. I didn't explore them too exhaustively because they looked like they were built like Anvil cases and weighed as much.

Perhaps that will be what someone is looking for. :idk:

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:36 pm
by heldenbone
That is really cool but I would want to squeeze it into a smaller case. Like, that type of case but viola sized.
Yeah, it looks pretty big to me.
Doing a search on Ebay with "violin gun case" brings up some interesting items.

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2023 2:21 am
by elmsandr
heldenbone wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:20 pm
elmsandr wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 3:22 pm I’m still looking for one just a little shorter, I want a 36” overall on the exterior, but I may be out of luck there.
Thanks for the kind words. The closest to a 36-inch flight case suitable for repurposing that I found was a 37-note keyboard case. I didn't explore them too exhaustively because they looked like they were built like Anvil cases and weighed as much.

Perhaps that will be what someone is looking for. :idk:
The problem is we all want everything with no trade-offs. Yours is a beautiful adaptation of a very robust Pelican. There are a few keyboard and pedal board cases, but like you say, they are built like Anvil cases.

I have seen very few rifle cases as nice as the Pelicans and none that come in at 36" overall. I may go a modular route eventually and make a slide case out of an arrow quiver case and something else for the bell section... but I don't see how doubling up on flanges and latches will save me weight or space yet.

Cheers,
Andy

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2023 4:54 am
by boneagain
Heldenbone,
There are a couple things I really like about your case (apart from the fabric :) )
1) It would actually be HARD for a luggage inspector to accidentally put anything back incorrectly
and cause damage to the horn.
2) It has more travel room inside than any other case I've seen,
so no matter HOW it gets dropped, there is foam to take up shock
before ANY part gets to the edge of the case.
Nice work!

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:48 pm
by Molefsky
Did you use pluckable foam etc? Did you use an adhesive for the lining material?

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:43 pm
by heldenbone
The case came with multiple single large sheets of non-perforated foam. I fitted it especially to that instrument by tracing its outline on the top layer, then cutting carefully with a sharp modelling knife. At the tuning slide end, the layers are cut so the valve slide is supported. The multiple layers made this easier. The cutout for the bell is deep enough to allow cushion above and below. The fabric is secured to the foam using E-6000 cement sparingly, and the foam is secured to the inside of the shell with double-sided adhesive film. I added a pair of luggage rollers from Amazon for $12, and later a set of opposing rubber feet so it would stand upright. Total cost was just under $200.

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case (revisited)

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 7:30 am
by heldenbone
Version 2.0 is still undergoing some testing, but the results so far are encouraging. Starting with a Gator 16-16.5" viola case, I've made it this far. Leadpipe sock in the lid, closed storage in the large end (hidden under bell), compression pillow rather than straps to restrain movement. Added d-rings for backpack straps and wheels/feet/handle for easy drag carrying, extra latch under handle for security. Interior is velveteen over compressible foam fitted especially to this trombone. Outer dimensions of case are 34" x 12" x 7", narrowing toward top.

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case (revisited)

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 7:51 am
by harrisonreed
Now THAT is cool

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case (revisited)

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:43 pm
by BGuttman
I hope the viola made a nice warm fire :evil:

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case (revisited)

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:27 pm
by Posaunus
BGuttman wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 12:43 pm I hope the viola made a nice warm fire :evil:
Watch out for the toxic smoke! :horror:

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case (revisited)

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:14 am
by UATrombone
heldenbone wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 7:30 am Interior is velveteen over compressible foam fitted especially to this trombone.
Could you explain what kind of foam and how did you cut it to fit trombone?
BTW, nice looking case, I thought to do the same thing, but, unfortunately, I can't find Gator viola case, dealers in my country only have Gator 4/4 violin case, which is much smaller than viola's one.

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case (revisited)

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 10:26 am
by bassbone1993
I'd be really curious as well! Nice side project.

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case (revisited)

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:36 am
by heldenbone
I bought foam rubber as a 1" thick sheet, 2' x 4' at a craft store. It cuts pretty easily with a razor knife, although if you prefer, aforementioned hobby store also sells a hot knife especially for cutting and sculpting foam rubber and styrofoam. It was really just a process of tracing and cutting the trace - first the case interior, next layer with an outline of the instrument body. I started out using E-6000 cement, but it smelled so bad I changed to hot-melt glue. The most fiddling went into getting the material to conform to all the odd contours. I ended up making cuts in the material once it was partially in place, and putting in odd size/shape patches to make things work gracefully. I'm stilling mulling over how the bell flare goes in. It may end up secured to the lid.

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case (revisited)

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:00 am
by UATrombone
Thank you for the explanation.
My thoughts were the same. Multi-layered foam insert.
I found foam in different thickness and even thought to laser cut it (there are a lot of companies which offer this service). But, price for one insert is quite high.

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case (revisited)

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:33 am
by heldenbone
With purchase of the viola case, foam, and some hardware bits, I'm into it for $200 (us) or a bit more. The material was a remnant in my wife's sewing stores. Plus a ridiculous amount of time, of course. :amazed:

Re: Home brew cut bell bass trombone case (revisited)

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:00 pm
by heldenbone
Wrapping up "revisited" for now after a couple suggested revisions:

o blocks to keep the slide in its own lane

o better bell flare stowage