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I've recently bought a King 3B and did some modifications on it, made the bell detachable and removed the old orange laquer.

I love its sound now, more compact and centered than before.

But I have doubts about lacquering it again or not... Besides of protection of the instrument, how it affects the sound? I never knew how lacquer affects the sound exactly...

Probably I'll lacquer only the inner side of the bell, because in a time I'm gonna hate the black dots, but I'm looking for all the options...

Thanks!

How exactly did you make the bell detachable? The Iconic king curved brace does not easily lend itself to the fittings usually used.

A good lacquer coat dampens the sound a little. A thick lacquer coat deadens the sound.

tbonesullivan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:04 am How exactly did you make the bell detachable? The Iconic king curved brace does not easily lend itself to the fittings usually used.

My usual tech did it, with a regular detachable bell ring...

BGuttman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:08 am A good lacquer coat dampens the sound a little. A thick lacquer coat deadens the sound.

Thanks!

alberttrombone wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:46 am

BGuttman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:08 am A good lacquer coat dampens the sound a little. A thick lacquer coat deadens the sound.

Thanks!

Exactly. And to add to that, the original King lacquer is about as thick as lacquer comes. A good tech can do a clear spray lacquer coat that will be significantly less deadening - though also significantly less durable.

My 3B and 607 were much better after taking the lacquer off. Need to do my 608 too.

I haven't thought about relacquering... Too much effort.

Burgerbob wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:15 pm My 3B and 607 were much better after taking the lacquer off. Need to do my 608 too.

I haven't thought about relacquering... Too much effort.

And do you use wax or any other material to mantain the trombone in good shape?

alberttrombone wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:44 pm

Burgerbob wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:15 pm My 3B and 607 were much better after taking the lacquer off. Need to do my 608 too.

I haven't thought about relacquering... Too much effort.

And do you use wax or any other material to mantain the trombone in good shape?

Nope, I just polish it when it gets nasty.

Polish how? Sorry about my ignorance about it

I use Hope's Brass Polish. Once you remove the lacquer, it needs to be polished anyway.

Thanks!

I used Renaissance Wax on a Bach 36B 2 years ago and haven’t had to do anything further. I waited until it had the patina I desired and applied the wax. No water spots or change in the patina.

https://restorationproduct.com/shop/renaissance-wax/

Used my museums to preserve several types of surfaces.

I read that as resonance wax, thought it was edwards newest gadget

My usual tech did it, with a regular detachable bell ring...

So you had the bell modified to have a screw bell flare. To fit the horn in a flat case.
The entire bell isn't detachable.

It is a nomenclature detail, but can help avoid confusion.

I would think that altering the bell would have a more noticeable effect than lacquer removal.