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Frankenbone

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Got to fooling around with my herd and discovered an interesting combination. I married the slide from a '47 Recording to the bell of a '46 Studio. Popped in a gold plated Denis Wick 10cs and found a set-up I really like. Full, mellow tone in all registers. What other Frankenbones have y'all created?
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My favourite large bore setup at the moment is a frankenbone:

Bach LT42 slide
Custom-made rotary F valve section with modular fittings
Bach 42 tuning slide
Shires red brass bell

I also like another frankenbone setup for small bore:

King 3B slide
Benge 170 bell section

Guess I like the combo of nickel silver slide with a red/gold brass bell (coincidentally also my bass has this combo, a Yamaha 612Rii)
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Yup. Lots of em! This is my favorite.
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Burgerbob wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 2:26 pm Yup. Lots of em! This is my favorite.
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Conn 32h bell with Yamaha 455 slide. Just right.
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officermayo wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:03 pm
Burgerbob wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 2:26 pm Yup. Lots of em! This is my favorite.
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Bach 50 modular with:
Corp 50 bell
Corp 50 screwbell
Hoelle reversed seamed copper tuning slide
Olsen axials by Benn Hansson
Shires B62/78
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Burgerbob wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:06 pm
officermayo wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:03 pm

Description, por favor.
Bach 50 modular with:
Corp 50 bell
Corp 50 screwbell
Hoelle reversed seamed copper tuning slide
Olsen axials by Benn Hansson
Shires B62/78
Edwards DBB
Edwards DBN
How do you like the Hoelle tuning slide over the stock tuning?
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Massive difference. Way quicker response. Changes the sound a little, takes some dullness away.
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From "The Rick Bartkus Collection" is this mashup of a Getzen Custom .500" bore tenor with a copper bell made by Kanstul and the conversion work was done at the Kanstul factory in Anaheim, Ca. The Getzen slide is a lightweight nickel-silver and the warmth of the copper bell (one piece construction) really works better than the Getzen bell did. More balanced tone, less harsh.
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Oh boy. This could take awhile since... I don't recall having a totally stock hon for the last decade :lol: A few highlights:

My main classical horn for something like 6 years was

Slide: Yamaha YSL646 upper + YSL8820G crook+ lower w/ Conn 52H leadpipe, threaded for Shires collars
Valve: Dependent F/D valve section w/ a Bach 36 rotor + Tubing + a .547 off some German bass w/ 88H tubing w/ a Schilke neckpipe
Tuning Slide: Shires SY
Bell: Shires 2RVET7

Still have that one, but did let the rotor get away. Played absolutely wonderfully. Original goal was to make a faux-bass with a Holton 9" bell I had but it never quite worked as a bass for me beyond pretty light stuff so I let that go when I had Jeff over at Long Island Brass make me an inline valve section for a Shires I pieced together. Now, I play the above horn with a dual-bore rotor and a 7YLW8 and an "X" tuning slide, usually. And the bell is now on a...

Slide: Edwards 547 w/ Bass Crook w/ Conn Remington leadpipe
Valve: Edwards neckpipe with... Shires bell posts and a Shires Tuning slide receiver
Tuning Slide: Shires SY
Bell: 2RVET7

I'd complained about this horn before but I think I finally have it dialed in with the Remington leadpipe. Can't believe how cheap the stock CS pipes are still.
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My big bore Helmut Voigt alto (bell 19 cm) with a shortened 36 Bach slide. This combination work fine. Better than with the original Voigt slide.
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Tried another experiment today. Bell from '46 Studio and slide of a '46 Special. Bach 17C seems to make a nice lead sound.
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Burgerbob wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:58 pm Massive difference. Way quicker response. Changes the sound a little, takes some dullness away.
Did you get one with a cross brace or without? I'm thinking about getting one for my 42s.
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tbonesullivan wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 8:21 pm
Burgerbob wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:58 pm Massive difference. Way quicker response. Changes the sound a little, takes some dullness away.
Did you get one with a cross brace or without? I'm thinking about getting one for my 42s.
With crossbrace. I actually have two identical ones for Bach 50.
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Burgerbob wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:23 pm
With crossbrace. I actually have two identical ones for Bach 50.
Might need to sell one ;) ;) ;)
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Elow wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:52 pm
Burgerbob wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:23 pm
With crossbrace. I actually have two identical ones for Bach 50.
Might need to sell one ;) ;) ;)
But it's going in a project in like... a year!!!
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Burgerbob wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:23 pm With crossbrace. I actually have two identical ones for Bach 50.
Hoarding them eh? Given my addiction to Bach trombones getting one might be a good investment. The Nickel Silver ones are interesting too.
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