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Question from me

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:06 am
by DominicaSanchez
Hello! I'm sorry for bothering you but what tricks can Ш use to play the trombone to sound better? I'm a beginner trombonist and I need you advices. :clever:

Re: Question from me

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:42 am
by Elow
practicing with a goal in mind and listening to james market tenor album if you play tenor or bass album is you play bass

Re: Question from me

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:22 am
by Bach5G
Elow wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:42 am practicing with a goal in mind and listening to james market tenor album if you play tenor or bass album is you play bass
I’m guessing you mean “James Markey” and you’re referring to his Youtube videos. Excellent idea!

Here is one such video:



Otherwise, long tones.

Re: Question from me

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:32 am
by Elow
Yes, Markey. Those videos are great too, i was just talking about these

Re: Question from me

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:05 am
by BGuttman
First, there are no "tricks" to play trombone. You need to learn how to play it properly. You will need the help of a teacher to make sure you do it properly. Then you have to practice to build your technique.

by all means check out the many YouTube videos of how to do things, but take them with a grain of salt. Anybody who offers a miracle shortcut is full of beans. Believe me, if there was any shortcut to virtuosity we'd all be doing it.

Re: Question from me

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:23 am
by Kdanielsen
Markey’s solo tenor album was a huge inspiration for me too. It’s as good as it gets.

Re: Question from me

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:58 pm
by robcat2075
DominicaSanchez wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:06 am what tricks can Ш use to play the trombone to sound better?
Tongue with "tah", not "tu" or "too" or "toe" or "tuh"...

That doesn't sound like much of a trick but no trick sounds like much of a trick once you hear the trick.

"Tah" would have saved me from four years of rotten trombone sounds... if only any of my teachers had told me.

If you sound like I sounded in sixth grade, "tah" is the first thing I would investigate.

Re: Question from me

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:47 am
by robcat2075
And I'll second the previous advice to find and listen to recordings of strong players, to have as mental models of what you want to sound like.

As a beginner, the only trombone players I ever heard were the other rotten trombone players in my grade. :idk:
Elow wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:42 am practicing with a goal in mind...
There is a loop to this.

Every time you play is going to sound a bit different than the last time you played, either by intention or by accident.

The player who gets better is the one who notices this and can ascertain what he did differently. Keep doing what made for better and ditch what made for worse.

Repeat.

Re: Question from me

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:43 am
by Bach5G
I spent an hour yesterday listening to one of the city’s top players try out trombones. That prompted a few thoughts.

It’s a bit like Inner Game of Tennis: learn by observing and copying. You need to know, consciously or unconsciously, your goal. And to do that you need to observe those who have already accomplished that goal and emulate them. Recordings are only part of that.

Re: Question from me

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:00 am
by Vegasbound
Get a good teacher

Establish a good practice regime

Repeat

Re: Question from me

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:07 pm
by timothy42b
Vegasbound wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:00 am Get a good teacher

Establish a good practice regime

Repeat
Nobody mentioned that, but establishing a good daily routine is a first step.

You'll change it over time as your needs change, or your theories of playing change, but it's probably essential for a beginner to start with a stable daily routine that covers basic fundamentals.

Re: Question from me

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:58 am
by afugate
robcat2075 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:47 am Every time you play is going to sound a bit different than the last time you played, either by intention or by accident.
The hard part is minimizing the difference.

One time I was performing in the pit for a production of Annie. What was supposed to be a lightning quick scene change turned into a 5 minute ordeal. :horror:

The problem? The scene change vamp was a 2 bar phrase. Bone 1 plays a sustained low F whole note in the second bar. This became comical as the scene change dragged on mercilessly. My daughter was sitting in pit right next to me and was thoroughly enjoying watching me sweat as I tried to make each iteration sound just like the previous one... :lol:

--Andy in OKC

Re: Question from me

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:50 am
by DominicaSanchez
Thank you All!!!!!! It is very usefull and important for me!!!!!
I'm already did my profile in musescore (https://musescore.com/user/40148473) and I will upload my works there. If you want you can see them there

Re: Question from me

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:57 am
by harrisonreed
Hmmmmmm

Re: Question from me

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:58 am
by HenrikStromberg
Yes. You can use scores web sites for learning too (including https://musescore.com/sheetmusic?page=2&text=trombone and https://www.musicnotes.com/search/go?w= ... rom=header) but the most importatnt thing is- practice pratice practice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!