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Jazz study materials for beginners

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:25 pm
by RustBeltBass
Hello everyone,

What are some of the etude books/methods you recommend for students new to jazz music ?
Are there any standard books comparable to the established “classical” trombone rep ?

Thank you !

Re: Jazz study materials for beginners

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:28 pm
by baileyman
Records.

Re: Jazz study materials for beginners

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:29 am
by afugate
Nothing beats listening and transcribing.

If you're interested in something to provide a framework and a method for your study, I suggest Hal Crook's books, "How to Improvise" and "Ready, Aim, Improvise!"

--Andy in OKC

Re: Jazz study materials for beginners

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:34 am
by Kdanielsen
Id be interested in very easy stuff for middle school students. Doesn’t go above F, not a million accidentals, etc.

I use Paisner for that now but it’s very dated.

Re: Jazz study materials for beginners

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:46 am
by CalgaryTbone
To address a different skill for young jazz performers, Alan Raph wrote an etude book called "Dance Band Reading" (or something similar). Good book to work through for working on reading charts.

Jim Scott

Re: Jazz study materials for beginners

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:19 am
by robcat2075
Kdanielsen wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:34 am

I use Paisner for that now but it’s very dated.

How is that "dated" such that it no longer serves the purpose?

It's teaching a historical style... "dated" is what it's supposed to be, right?

Re: Jazz study materials for beginners

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:38 am
by Kdanielsen
robcat2075 wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:19 am
Kdanielsen wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:34 am

I use Paisner for that now but it’s very dated.

How is that "dated" such that it no longer serves the purpose?

It's teaching a historical style... "dated" is what it's supposed to be, right?
I’m not totally sure the titles to the songs aren’t problematic.

“Keep off the Grass”
“Mellow Mouthful”
“All God’s Chillun Got Swing”
“Swingin with the Sphinx” has a tempo of “in an oriental 4”

That kind of stuff. Not egregious but I’d rather just have numbers.

Re: Jazz study materials for beginners

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:53 am
by robcat2075
Kdanielsen wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:38 am I’m not totally sure the titles to the songs aren’t problematic.

“Keep off the Grass”
“Mellow Mouthful”
“All God’s Chillun Got Swing”
“Swingin with the Sphinx” has a tempo of “in an oriental 4”

That kind of stuff. Not egregious but I’d rather just have numbers.
OK.

I can very much imagine a parent showing up at a schoolboard meeting with that in hand.

Re: Jazz study materials for beginners

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:08 pm
by JLivi
CalgaryTbone wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:46 am To address a different skill for young jazz performers, Alan Raph wrote an etude book called "Dance Band Reading" (or something similar). Good book to work through for working on reading charts.

Jim Scott
This book is phenomenal!

Also, I use the skills learned in Alan Raph's book and apply them to Jim Snidero's jazz conception etude book

Re: Jazz study materials for beginners

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:21 pm
by RustBeltBass
Thank you all for your suggestions, time to pay a visit to the Hickeys website.

Re: Jazz study materials for beginners

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:55 am
by TonyNeal
I like using Easy Jazzy Tudes, then Jazz @ Etudes by Mark Nightingale, published by Warwick. They are short, progressive, use a range of jazz styles and are included in UK grade exam syllabuses.
The students enjoy playing something a bit different.
Tony