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Mt Vernon Bach 36 bell size

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:45 pm
by ttf_greenbean
I have a Mt Vernon Bach 36 with an 8.5" bell.  Aren't 36 bells usually 8"?...



Mt Vernon Bach 36 bell size

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:49 pm
by ttf_Burgerbob
Yes. Nice find! Selling it? Image

Mt Vernon Bach 36 bell size

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:18 am
by ttf_Blowero
Weird. I thought 42 and 36 bells were the same except for the diameter of the flare.

Mt Vernon Bach 36 bell size

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:24 am
by ttf_Dukesboneman
Jimmy Knepper played a 36 with an 8 1/2" bell. I read in an interview that he said it was the best horn he`d ever played.


Mt Vernon Bach 36 bell size

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:47 am
by ttf_elmsandr
My Vernon and earlier Bachs were quite a bit loose on the actual measurements.  The 50 is described as a 9 inch bass... though most are at least 9.25.

From my drooling over all pics I’ve seen, it isn’t common, but it is not exactly uncommon either. I myself have a 9.5 inch 45 and a 10.0 inch 50, neither near the listed specs.

Cheers,
Andy

Mt Vernon Bach 36 bell size

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:19 pm
by ttf_greenbean
Quote from: Burgerbob on Dec 07, 2017, 11:49PMYes. Nice find! Selling it? Image

Definitely not!  Luckiest find ever.  Ridiculously good horn.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/hAqGRNaOIvnvnf0s1

Mt Vernon Bach 36 bell size

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:23 pm
by ttf_The Bone Ranger
Interesting!

The nickel sleeves on the handslide are of an equal length, too, which is unusual.

Andrew

Mt Vernon Bach 36 bell size

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:34 am
by ttf_greenbean
Right. I have seen or owned MV 36's make only a few years and they had the oversleeves of different lengths.

Mt Vernon Bach 36 bell size

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:12 am
by ttf_elmsandr
Quote from: The Bone Ranger on Dec 18, 2017, 11:23PMInteresting!

The nickel sleeves on the handslide are of an equal length, too, which is unusual.

Andrew
No.  That is normal.  Until the middle of the Mt. Vernon period the oversleeves were of equal length on Bach horns. This is just a sign of the age of the horn.

Cheers,
Andy

Mt Vernon Bach 36 bell size

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:05 am
by ttf_daveyboy37
Quote from: Blowero on Dec 08, 2017, 02:18AMWeird. I thought 42 and 36 bells were the same except for the diameter of the flare.
That's my understanding as well. Same Mandrel. Maybe it pre-dates the model 42? The 45 and 36 were made before the 42, which was pretty much a combination of the 45 and 36 parts.

Mt Vernon Bach 36 bell size

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:05 am
by ttf_daveyboy37
Quote from: Blowero on Dec 08, 2017, 02:18AMWeird. I thought 42 and 36 bells were the same except for the diameter of the flare.
That's my understanding as well. Same Mandrel. Maybe it pre-dates the model 42? The 45 and 36 were made before the 42, which was pretty much a combination of the 45 and 36 parts.