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Cutting bells down in size.

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:19 pm
by modelerdc
Has anyone ever cut a bell down to a smaller size? For example I have a nice Bach 10 1/2 inch bell that I think would be even better cut down to 10 or 9 1/2 inches. Does anyone know of anyone who does this and what the cost might be? Thanks.

Re: Cutting bells down in size.

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:31 pm
by greenbean
I have owned a horn with a bell that had been cut from 10 to 9.5 by Robb Stewart in So Cal. Beautifully done.

Re: Cutting bells down in size.

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:51 pm
by Burgerbob
I think Robb may have been the only person doing it. He's now retired. I know Joe Stanko had some bells converted in just that same way, but I'm pretty sure it was Robb.

Re: Cutting bells down in size.

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:19 pm
by TheBoneRanger
I know Matt Walker (M&W trombones) cut down a Bach 50 bell for a friend of mine when he was living in Australia.

Andrew

Re: Cutting bells down in size.

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:56 pm
by JoeStanko
Burgerbob wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:51 pm I think Robb may have been the only person doing it. He's now retired. I know Joe Stanko had some bells converted in just that same way, but I'm pretty sure it was Robb.
Yes, numerous done by Robb..look at his website showing a Holton 180 he did for me. He can unsolder or solder as per your preference and is a true craftsman.

Re: Cutting bells down in size.

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:27 pm
by mrdeacon
Burgerbob wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:51 pm I think Robb may have been the only person doing it. He's now retired. I know Joe Stanko had some bells converted in just that same way, but I'm pretty sure it was Robb.
Wow when did Rob retire? Amazing craftsman but definitely was pretty curmudgeonly when I met him in high school lol.

Re: Cutting bells down in size.

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:25 pm
by Burgerbob
mrdeacon wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:27 pm
Burgerbob wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:51 pm I think Robb may have been the only person doing it. He's now retired. I know Joe Stanko had some bells converted in just that same way, but I'm pretty sure it was Robb.
Wow when did Rob retire? Amazing craftsman but definitely was pretty curmudgeonly when I met him in high school lol.
He cleaned my euph in maybe... 2017? At that point he was planning on moving north somewhere on the 5. Since then he has moved and doesn't have a shop, I'm pretty sure.

Re: Cutting bells down in size.

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:06 am
by modelerdc
Actually this horn with the 10.5 bell plays exceptionally well. Best 50BL I'ved played. It might be better for me just to buy a regular 50B bell and make them interchangeable. The rest of the horn is duo Hagmanns and an Edward slide. As well as it plays I don't feel the over size bell is as suitable for general playing as the standard Bach bell.

Re: Cutting bells down in size.

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:48 am
by JohnL
Burgerbob wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:25 pmAt that point he was planning on moving north somewhere on the 5. Since then he has moved and doesn't have a shop, I'm pretty sure.
A couple years ago he was talking about transitioning to being "semi-retired" and moving up to (IIRC) the Santa Clarita Valley area.

Here's what he says on his website:
I’VE JUST CELEBRATED THE COMPLETION OF MY 40TH YEAR IN BUSINESS AND I CONTINUE TO CUT BACK MY WORK LOAD. I STILL HAVE A SMALL LIST OF USED BRASS INSTRUMENTS FOR SALE AND I TAKE ON INTERESTING PROJECTS AS I AM ABLE TO.
I wouldn't think cutting down a modern trombone bell would meet Robb's threshold for "interesting".

Re: Cutting bells down in size.

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:36 am
by spencercarran
JoeStanko wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:56 pm
Burgerbob wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:51 pm I think Robb may have been the only person doing it. He's now retired. I know Joe Stanko had some bells converted in just that same way, but I'm pretty sure it was Robb.
Yes, numerous done by Robb..look at his website showing a Holton 180 he did for me. He can unsolder or solder as per your preference and is a true craftsman.
How'd cutting the bell affect the 180's sound?