1951 Martin Imperial Specs
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1951 Martin Imperial Specs
Anyone know much about this horn in roughly this vintage?
Brian
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Re: 1951 Martin Imperial Specs
If you look at my avatar I'm playing one. Just a few years older (late 1940s).
Mine has a 7 1/2 inch bell, pretty much all yellow brass, small bore (I think it's 0.485"; have to measure it for you when I have time). Not a heavy or a light slide. It doesn't need a counterweight because the brace on the tuning slide is solid. Somebody tried to wash mine in too hot water once since the lacquer on mine looks like a tiny checkerboard.
I had it and a similar age Committee and found the Committee had more of a Big Band sound while the Imperial had more of a Dixieland sound. Since I had a nice Holton Stratodyne for Big Band I sold my Committee.
Now I'm playing in two "old folks" big bands (we play for dances at Senior Centers) and the Imperial is a great lead horn. I tamed it's roughness by using a relatively deep Warburton 7D/4 combination (normally I play a Bach 4C; the 7 is a little larger in diameter and the D is deeper).
Anything else you want to know?
Mine has a 7 1/2 inch bell, pretty much all yellow brass, small bore (I think it's 0.485"; have to measure it for you when I have time). Not a heavy or a light slide. It doesn't need a counterweight because the brace on the tuning slide is solid. Somebody tried to wash mine in too hot water once since the lacquer on mine looks like a tiny checkerboard.
I had it and a similar age Committee and found the Committee had more of a Big Band sound while the Imperial had more of a Dixieland sound. Since I had a nice Holton Stratodyne for Big Band I sold my Committee.
Now I'm playing in two "old folks" big bands (we play for dances at Senior Centers) and the Imperial is a great lead horn. I tamed it's roughness by using a relatively deep Warburton 7D/4 combination (normally I play a Bach 4C; the 7 is a little larger in diameter and the D is deeper).
Anything else you want to know?
Bruce Guttman
Merrimack Valley Philharmonic Orchestra
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Merrimack Valley Philharmonic Orchestra
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Re: 1951 Martin Imperial Specs
Great info so far. The only other thing would be a definitive answer on the bore size of yours. I also wonder if they had much variance over the years.
Brian
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Re: 1951 Martin Imperial Specs
Haven't had a chance to do actual measurements yet but I did a crude test.
1. The slide goes on "upside down" so the outside of both inners are the same.
2. I found my mouthpiece goes in about an inch in the upper tube, but much further in the lower (actually went past the taper).
So I conclude that it's a dual bore like a King 2B. Probably fairly close as well.
When I get the horn and my calipers in teh same place I will get some actual measurements.
1. The slide goes on "upside down" so the outside of both inners are the same.
2. I found my mouthpiece goes in about an inch in the upper tube, but much further in the lower (actually went past the taper).
So I conclude that it's a dual bore like a King 2B. Probably fairly close as well.
When I get the horn and my calipers in teh same place I will get some actual measurements.
Bruce Guttman
Merrimack Valley Philharmonic Orchestra
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Re: 1951 Martin Imperial Specs
Thanks, Bruce.
Brian
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