Mt Vernon Bach 36 bell size

ttf_greenbean · Post by **ttf_greenbean** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:45 pm

I have a Mt Vernon Bach 36 with an 8.5" bell. Aren't 36 bells usually 8"?...

ttf_Burgerbob · Post by **ttf_Burgerbob** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:49 pm

Yes. Nice find! Selling it?

ttf_Blowero · Post by **ttf_Blowero** » Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:18 am

Weird. I thought 42 and 36 bells were the same except for the diameter of the flare.

ttf_Dukesboneman · Post by **ttf_Dukesboneman** » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:24 am

Jimmy Knepper played a 36 with an 8 1/2" bell. I read in an interview that he said it was the best horn he`d ever played.

ttf_elmsandr · Post by **ttf_elmsandr** » Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:47 am

My Vernon and earlier Bachs were quite a bit loose on the actual measurements. The 50 is described as a 9 inch bass... though most are at least 9.25.

From my drooling over all pics Ive seen, it isnt common, but it is not exactly uncommon either. I myself have a 9.5 inch 45 and a 10.0 inch 50, neither near the listed specs.

Cheers,
Andy

ttf_greenbean · Post by **ttf_greenbean** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:19 pm

Quote from: Burgerbob on Dec 07, 2017, 11:49PMYes. Nice find! Selling it?

Definitely not! Luckiest find ever. Ridiculously good horn.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/hAqGRNaOIvnvnf0s1

ttf_The Bone Ranger · Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:23 pm

Interesting!

The nickel sleeves on the handslide are of an equal length, too, which is unusual.

Andrew

ttf_greenbean · Post by **ttf_greenbean** » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:34 am

Right. I have seen or owned MV 36's make only a few years and they had the oversleeves of different lengths.

ttf_elmsandr · Post by **ttf_elmsandr** » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:12 am

Quote from: The Bone Ranger on Dec 18, 2017, 11:23PMInteresting!

The nickel sleeves on the handslide are of an equal length, too, which is unusual.

Andrew
No. That is normal. Until the middle of the Mt. Vernon period the oversleeves were of equal length on Bach horns. This is just a sign of the age of the horn.

Cheers,
Andy

ttf_daveyboy37 · Post by **ttf_daveyboy37** » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:05 am

Quote from: Blowero on Dec 08, 2017, 02:18AMWeird. I thought 42 and 36 bells were the same except for the diameter of the flare.
That's my understanding as well. Same Mandrel. Maybe it pre-dates the model 42? The 45 and 36 were made before the 42, which was pretty much a combination of the 45 and 36 parts.

ttf_daveyboy37 · Post by **ttf_daveyboy37** » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:05 am

Quote from: Blowero on Dec 08, 2017, 02:18AMWeird. I thought 42 and 36 bells were the same except for the diameter of the flare.
That's my understanding as well. Same Mandrel. Maybe it pre-dates the model 42? The 45 and 36 were made before the 42, which was pretty much a combination of the 45 and 36 parts.