Miraphone 58 W 4 valve trombone

[JimRutgers]

I am a tuba and bass trombone player. I am interested in purchasing a Miraphone 58W 4 valve tenor trombone. The bell size is 9.449 and the bore is .512. This appears to be the closest horn I can find that could be used as a valve bass trombone. Does anyone have any experience with with the 58W? I can't find anything searching the internet.

[Burgerbob]

Sounds like it would be a German style valve trombone. I'm not sure if it will really cover the bass spectrum the way you would want.

[Finetales]

That is certainly not a valve bass trombone. Thein makes large bore tenor and bass valve trombones, if you want to spend that kind of cash.

[marccromme]

Why would you like to find a 4 valve bass trombone? It will be stuffy and notoriously out of tune in the cash register. .. to play B and E in tune , you would need a 5th valve, and it would still not cover the gap to pedal Bb sufficient in tune.

better use the loooong tuning slide that your existing bass trombone already has. ..

[Nomsis]

These instruments are not a direct substitute for normal modern bass trombones but have their entirely own use case:

[Posaunus]

I want to join this band! Play a tune, drink a beer, play a tune, drink a beer, play a tune, ...

Music to my German ears.

[Nomsis]

I want to join this band! Play a tune, drink a beer, play a tune, drink a beer, play a tune, ...

Music to my German ears.

Sometimes i think the sole reason for the invention of the valve trombone was the practical impossibility of playing a normal trombone behind a beer table... (:

PS: I usually prefer bass trumpets/flugels over valve trombones, they have similar use cases in this style of music. Valve trombones are nice as well though.