Hetman Alternatives

[Talpo64]

Hi
Rn I'm using a Hetman number 11 rotor oil for my valve and because they no longer exist I need to find an alternative.
Any recommended brands?

Thanks.

P.S. Do they also have a valve links lubricant?

[Burgerbob]

Ultra Pure

[hornbuilder]

Plus 1 for Ultra Pure

[HornboneandVocals]

I use monster oil purely for the Amazon prime convenience, works as good as any others in my experience. They’ve got different weights: Light, heavy, and linkage.

[Gfunk]

Also +1 ultra pure. It’s what I transitioned to from Hetmans

[vetsurginc]

Ultra Pure.

[pfrancis]

If looking for a like for like J. Meinlschmidt offers an almost identical product lineup. Available to techs through Allied Supply and for sale elsewhere as well. Not quite as extensive a lineup but comprehensive none the less.

[piezer]

Related question: When switching to the new oil do I need to completely clean the valves or can I use the new oil on top the old?

[NorthWoodsEngineer]

Related question: When switching to the new oil do I need to completely clean the valves or can I use the new oil on top the old?

It's probably a good idea - you don't need to go crazy, but taking it apart and wiping it all down with some water and a rag would be fine.

I'm running low on my Hetman #11 myself. To those recommending the Ultra Pure, there seem to be a couple options. Any opinions on which you prefer? And why?

On a related note, I have J. Meinlschmidt linkage oil and their tuning slide gel #7 and I absolutely love it! It seals incredibly and is very long lasting. I noticed a big sealing difference in my horn after switching. Tempted to try out their rotor oil once the time comes.

[baBposaune]

J. Meinlschmidt reverse engineered the Hetman products and they are identical. I switched to "JM" lubricants and I'm very happy with the results, just like I was with the Hetman.

[harrisonreed]

Related question: When switching to the new oil do I need to completely clean the valves or can I use the new oil on top the old?

It's probably a good idea - you don't need to go crazy, but taking it apart and wiping it all down with some water and a rag would be fine.

I'm running low on my Hetman #11 myself. To those recommending the Ultra Pure, there seem to be a couple options. Any opinions on which you prefer? And why?

On a related note, I have J. Meinlschmidt linkage oil and their tuning slide gel #7 and I absolutely love it! It seals incredibly and is very long lasting. I noticed a big sealing difference in my horn after switching. Tempted to try out their rotor oil once the time comes.

I have UP regular and light, and the bearing oil.

FWIW, Hetman's would eventually become a thick yellow crud, but UP does not seem to do that.

[Posaunus]

FWIW, Hetman's would eventually become a thick yellow crud, but UP does not seem to do that.
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Harry,

Which Hetman's oil becomes thick & yellow? (Valve, rotor, linkage, ... ?) I haven't been this happen (yet).

When (if) I do need new oil (Ultra Pure, J Meinlschmidt, ... ?) what is the best place to purchase?

[bitbckt]

Ultra Pure sells direct to consumer on their website. Unless you’re in a hurry, buying from them seems best to me.

[harrisonreed]

FWIW, Hetman's would eventually become a thick yellow crud, but UP does not seem to do that.

Harry,

Which Hetman's oil becomes thick & yellow? (Valve, rotor, linkage, ... ?) I haven't been this happen (yet).

When (if) I do need new oil (Ultra Pure, J Meinlschmidt, ... ?) what is the best place to purchase?
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11 and 13, combined with the slide grease from Hetman. This happened after my tubes were about 1/3 full, so the oil was old at that point. But I'd expect it to never do that.

[Blabberbucket]

As baBposaunen said Meinlschmidt oils are, to the best of my understanding, direct duplicates of the Hetman products.

[LordeBedoo]

I can't think of the guys name who sells it, but I use Custom Brass oils. It's the stuff that Shires uses in their shop for testing if I remember right. I do recommend it, especially for Shires/Eastman stuff which is what I have. It's also a little difficult to find as you have to talk to the guy that makes it to place an order. I got mine because someone in my studio made a mass-order that everyone chipped in to. If you're interested, I'll find the guy and get you his name!

Edit: he makes both a rotor oil and a bearing/linkage oil :^).

[Johnstad]

Ultra Pure Light (green tip).

[spencercarran]

Related question: When switching to the new oil do I need to completely clean the valves or can I use the new oil on top the old?

When switching from Hetman to Ultra Pure, that's not strictly necessary since they're both pretty chemically similar synthetics. If you were switching to/from conventional petroleum based lubricants there would be more need to ensure a clean base.

Cleaning your horn every once in a while is a good idea anyways though, so using the brand switch as an excuse to get around to that wouldn't be bad.