Bumper sizes
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Bumper sizes
Curious, as I’m taking more care of my instruments, myself, rather than sending out. Lack of techs within three hours will make you try to learn.
So, looking for soft bumpers for shires rotors and rotors. I’ve been told o-rings and I’ve been told to use red rubber, in 11/64 and 17/64. Any recommendations on materials that are soft and quiet? I’m headed to a couple of hardware stores and to my local music and arts repair center tomorrow, but value any input.
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Jeff
So, looking for soft bumpers for shires rotors and rotors. I’ve been told o-rings and I’ve been told to use red rubber, in 11/64 and 17/64. Any recommendations on materials that are soft and quiet? I’m headed to a couple of hardware stores and to my local music and arts repair center tomorrow, but value any input.
Best
Jeff
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Re: Bumper sizes
Send me your address (via pm or email. matthew"at"customtrombones"dot"com) and I will send you some lengths of the 3 durometers of material that I use.
Matthew Walker
Owner/Craftsman, M&W Custom Trombones, LLC, Jackson, Wisconsin.
Former Bass Trombonist, Opera Australia, 1991-2006
Owner/Craftsman, M&W Custom Trombones, LLC, Jackson, Wisconsin.
Former Bass Trombonist, Opera Australia, 1991-2006
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That’s very nice of you MW! I’ll send you en email promptly. Let me know what I owe you and I’ll PayPal you.
Jeff
Jeff
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Re: Bumper sizes
For several reasons, I wouldn't use o-rings (or sewing machine belts, or ...). You also may discover that using softer material is not what you want -- it makes the bumpers bouncy in addition to wearing more quickly. The stuff Matthew Walker is sending you should fix you up.
I've always found Jeff Funderburk's rotary valve videos on Youtube to be especially helpful (though in the one on bumper replacement he uses cork rather than rubber -- matter of taste mostly):
There are some simple tricks that can avoid a lot of frustration.
I've always found Jeff Funderburk's rotary valve videos on Youtube to be especially helpful (though in the one on bumper replacement he uses cork rather than rubber -- matter of taste mostly):
There are some simple tricks that can avoid a lot of frustration.
Gary Merrill
Amati Oval Euph
1924 Buescher 3-valve Eb tuba
Schiller American Heritage 7B clone bass trombone
M/K nickel MV50 leadpipe
DE LB K/K8/110 Lexan
1947 Olds "Standard" trombone (Bach 12c)
Amati Oval Euph
1924 Buescher 3-valve Eb tuba
Schiller American Heritage 7B clone bass trombone
M/K nickel MV50 leadpipe
DE LB K/K8/110 Lexan
1947 Olds "Standard" trombone (Bach 12c)
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Good stuff!
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Re: Bumper sizes
Cork tends to wear out REALLY quickly.ghmerrill wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:53 pm For several reasons, I wouldn't use o-rings (or sewing machine belts, or ...). You also may discover that using softer material is not what you want -- it makes the bumpers bouncy in addition to wearing more quickly. The stuff Matthew Walker is sending you should fix you up.
I've always found Jeff Funderburk's rotary valve videos on Youtube to be especially helpful (though in the one on bumper replacement he uses cork rather than rubber -- matter of taste mostly):
There are some simple tricks that can avoid a lot of frustration.
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Didn't Osmun used to have some material they would do on your bumpers that supposedly lasted forever and ever after they installed it?
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Yes. Ive got it on my bass. Seems great! Been on there for 6 or 7 years now. Not my daily horn so I can’t say anything about the longevity.harrisonreed wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:16 am Didn't Osmun used to have some material they would do on your bumpers that supposedly lasted forever and ever after they installed it?
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Re: Bumper sizes
I have about 3' each of 1/4" and 3/16" black rubber cord that I got some years ago. I think it's from Votaw (could be J.L. Smith or somewhere else ). Votaw says "Our cord has been specially designed and fabricated with an exact durometer (hardness) for rotary valve instruments offering the proper amount of resistance to the rotor stop." -- so it's gotta be great. In fact, the stuff seems to last a LONG time (hence the 6' I have left), but then I don't hammer my valves as much as pro players (or serious amateurs) do. I think I've changed it twice on my bass trombone since I got that. But it also lasted a long time on my Cerveny rotary valve tuba when I had that as well.
I also have (from Votaw) some "stop plate bumper" of the (black rubber) sort that has one extended flat side (Votaw tags it specifically for Jupiter instruments in one size, and Holton instruments in another). I can't imagine why I have it. And then I've got 3' of (J.L Smith) silicone cord bumper material that I thought was gonna be great. It was an interesting experience for maybe a week, but not great.
I also have (from Votaw) some "stop plate bumper" of the (black rubber) sort that has one extended flat side (Votaw tags it specifically for Jupiter instruments in one size, and Holton instruments in another). I can't imagine why I have it. And then I've got 3' of (J.L Smith) silicone cord bumper material that I thought was gonna be great. It was an interesting experience for maybe a week, but not great.
Gary Merrill
Amati Oval Euph
1924 Buescher 3-valve Eb tuba
Schiller American Heritage 7B clone bass trombone
M/K nickel MV50 leadpipe
DE LB K/K8/110 Lexan
1947 Olds "Standard" trombone (Bach 12c)
Amati Oval Euph
1924 Buescher 3-valve Eb tuba
Schiller American Heritage 7B clone bass trombone
M/K nickel MV50 leadpipe
DE LB K/K8/110 Lexan
1947 Olds "Standard" trombone (Bach 12c)