Edwards 502i available in Bb/F/G/Eb?

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Edwards 502i available in Bb/F/G/Eb?

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I've been playing on my 545V in Bb/F/G/Eb for about 9 years. I. Like the horn and it's been my main horn for the entirety of its life. I used it thru undergrad and am using it now. I think I want a little more compression in the instrument. I play tenor quite a bit now so it feels difficult to center notes as easily. I was thinking about testing out the 502i but I use the G tuning in the pi. Does anyone know how easily Edwards makes this? Anyone y'all know have this done? I really want to test it out before hand, but seems like I'll just have to base it off the standard tuning.
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I'm sure it is something they could easily build and probably have in the past, but as it's not a production model they likely do not have one on hand. Their turnaround times are quite long at the moment.
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The B502i is already set up to allow the Bb/F/flat G tuning a la Blair Bollinger. It would be relatively simple for the factory or a good tech to shorten the 2nd valve tuning slide to get the pitch a little higher.
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On the less expensive side, have you tried using a tighter leadpipe and/or a mouthpiece with a tighter throat? Maybe email Christan and see if he has some suggestions? You could also ask about the 502I at the same time.
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tbonesullivan wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:20 pm On the less expensive side, have you tried using a tighter leadpipe and/or a mouthpiece with a tighter throat? Maybe email Christan and see if he has some suggestions? You could also ask about the 502I at the same time.
I can confirm that a good 1 leadpipe in a 454 really does make it play well.
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Why not just try a 454CRE valve section and get it special ordered for F/G/Eb? Then you just use your valves on that horn.
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ZacharyThornton wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:44 pm Why not just try a 454CRE valve section and get it special ordered for F/G/Eb? Then you just use your valves on that horn.
I suspect it's because the OP wants to use the AR valves? I've wondered myself why they only keep them on the 502
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Are the AR valves different than the CR valves, are those different than the valves on the nice Getzens that look like CR valves? Why make 3 different rotors
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According to Getzen / Edwards, they have said that the Powerbore Rotors are not the Same as the Rotors on the new CR modular horns, and also are not the same as the "Artist" rotors. So with the Eterna series, they currently have four rotor designs in production.
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