Water pooling in F slide

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Water pooling in F slide

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I've been playing my Edwards 454E for a couple months now and one inconvenience I've noticed is that water pools in the tubing of my F valve. This is my first horn with axials so I'm not sure if this is a common problem. I've been having to take out my F slide and dump out the water every time I hear the gurgling. This is not a convenient solution because it takes some time, and I don't always have enough time to dump it out during rests. Is there a better way around this issue? Thanks!
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Just lean the horn back, and while blowing air, press the F valve a few times.
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Hold the trombone in normal playing position with mouthpiece on lips.
Tip head back to put trombone slide horizontal and tilt head to the left so as to have bell section in a horizontal plane and the slide section in a vertical plane.
Press F valve lever so as to open the valve.

NOW SUCK LIKE CRAZY :twisted:

It works the first time. :shuffle:

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Yeah, axials can do that, as well as any other valve wrap that has a loop that runs backwards like that.
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stewbones43 wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:40 pm Hold the trombone in normal playing position with mouthpiece on lips.
Tip head back to put trombone slide horizontal and tilt head to the left so as to have bell section in a horizontal plane and the slide section in a vertical plane.
Press F valve lever so as to open the valve.

NOW SUCK LIKE CRAZY :twisted:

It works the first time. :shuffle:

Cheers

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stewbones43 wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:40 pm Hold the trombone in normal playing position with mouthpiece on lips.
Tip head back to put trombone slide horizontal and tilt head to the left so as to have bell section in a horizontal plane and the slide section in a vertical plane.
Press F valve lever so as to open the valve.

NOW SUCK LIKE CRAZY :twisted:

It works the first time. :shuffle:

Cheers

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Yup. They'll do that.

AKA, why I've been meaning to put a little forward dump slide on my horn for ~15 years. Just a little loop that points toward the bell so that when I set it down it will collect there and be easier to dump. It isn't THAT big of a problem when you get used to it, hence I haven't actually had the torch out to do this.

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A friend of mine in college had a franken-horn bass trombone with a set of Thayers. The F valve tubing was fitted with an Amado water key in that spot.

I just make sure to pull my F slide and dump every once in a while.
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We should probably all be more careful to empty the F tubing regularly. With the trigger at rest that area is sealed and must retain whatever water is there. Who knows what grows inside there? I can't remember ever snaking it.
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calcbone wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 5:15 am A friend of mine in college had a franken-horn bass trombone with a set of Thayers. The F valve tubing was fitted with an Amado water key in that spot.
I had that done to my first set of Thayers at a time when I was doing a lot of brass quintet playing. The only problem was that the Amado would empty onto my shirt if I didn't lean WAY forward.
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